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Vote in the CBC raw milk survey!

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Vote in the CBC poll. Click image above to go to page with poll on it.

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California public health department surveys public opinion on raw milk

It’s well known in public relations circles that polls and surveys are useful tools for manipulating “public opinion”. But could that really be what’s behind a recent California Department of Public Health survey into attitudes towards raw milk? Or do they really care what people think? Here’s an excerpt from a news report by Nicholas Grube, of “The Triplicate”:

from the Alexandre Farms website -- theirs is the raw milk cowshare that prompted the survey.

from the Alexandre Farms website -- theirs is the raw milk cowshare that prompted the survey.

“..In particular, researchers want to interview residents who were involved in Alexandre Family EcoDairy Farms’ cow-share program that was the vehicle for distributing unpasteurized milk to its customers. Health officials say it also was the source of a campylobacter outbreak that sickened more than a dozen people, including one woman who was paralyzed and placed on a ventilator shortly after drinking the product. Continue reading

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Court of Public Opinion — Dec. 11, ’08

The Grey-Bruce landowners present “The Court of Public Opinion” at Keady Ontario Community Centre Hall, Thursday December 11, 2008 at 7:15 pm,

Farmer Michael Schmidt, age 54, is charged with 20 separate offences in regards to the production and distribution of raw milk. He will stand trial and all in attendance will be sequestered as jurors until a verdict is reached.

The award-winning video “Michael Schmidt: Organic Hero or Bio-terrorist” will be shown as evidence prior to the trial. For further information on the proceedings, contact Sean McGivern at 519-794-4445.

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More from Globe and Mail readers — the feedback just keeps on coming

Is this man a criminal. Opinions differ.

Is this man a criminal? Opinions differ.

Yesterday we turned our attention to what readers were saying on the Globe and Mail website in response to the latest developments — a $55,000 fine — in the Michael Schmidt raw milk case. Well, since then, lots more exciting commentary has been posted by impassioned readers, from both sides of the fence. Here’s a sampling:

Bob F from Canada writes: I find the comments of posters here perplexing. Wonder what your thoughts would be if this article read ” Raw milk producer kills 7 children”. The Laws of the Canada are in place to keep people safe, no matter how small the perceived risks may be. You cannot simply break the law because you deem it unfair. If you wish to have a law changed work within the system to do so. Without this we would have anarchy. There are some exceptions to this rule but we are talking about the right to drink milk. Continue reading

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Canadian milk regulators sound like “Orwellian robotrons” to Californians watching raw milk movie at Weston A. Price Foundation’s “Wise Traditions”

Michael Schmidt at Planet in Focus festival, Sean Bennell photo

Michael Schmidt at Planet in Focus festival, Sean Bennell photo

Here’s an excerpt from David E. Gumpert’s report on the showing this past weekend of Norman Lofts’ prize-winning movie about raw milk farmer Michael Schmidt, down in California at the Weston A. Price Foundation’s “Wise Traditions” conference. Both Michael and Norman were on hand for the conference, and David was asked to introduce them to an audience of several hundred. It’s fascinating to see how the Canadian raw milk situation looks to someone who’s been around the U.S. raw milk scene as much as David Gumpert has. Here’s some of what he says in a post from Sunday on his “Complete Patient” blog:

“It’s difficult to imagine that there might be a country that is more inhospitable to raw milk than the U.S., but there is, and it is just across to the north–Canada.
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Comments on Tuesday’s raw milk movie broadcast from viewers at CBC.ca

CBC.ca doesn’t seem to be as “on the ball” in handling comments as do their colleagues at CBCnews.ca . Either that, or they’re deliberately damping down the response by being slow in moderating and posting comments, perhaps in response to adverse reaction from “someone” up there. I was thinking again about how Norman Lofts’ movie won the big prize at Planet in Focus and wondered how much of that was for his excellent filmmaking and how much was because the judges liked the movie’s message. Was it like Michael Moore winning the big prize at Cannes for “Fahrenheit 911” — which commentators at the time thought was motivated more by the judges’ agreement with his political message rather than as testimony to the timeless excellence of his filmmaking? Anyway, CBC Newsworld’s broadcast on Tuesday night was the first showing of Norman Lofts’ movie about raw milk and farmer Michael Schmidt to a mass audience. What was their response? Read all the comments here on the cbc.ca site. Or start with the few samples below:

Chris B: My choice to consume raw milk was more to do with the health concerns related to the pasteurization and homogenization process. It is sad that those in authority that appeared on the show, are totally ignorant of the very real downside of processed milk. It all depends on the farm. If the cattle are living in dirty conditions and being fed unatural food, then yes, the raw milk is not fit for human consumption. If the cattle are living in fields and eating grass, that is a totally different matter. When I told a friend from Poland about the so called dangers of raw milk, she burst out laughing. that is all they ever had and no-one ever got sick from it. A very informative website is http://www.raw-milk-facts.com/raw_milk_safety.html Continue reading

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So what are the “Yahoo”s saying?

Alright, I hear you muttering about that story on cbcnews and the 344 comments. Some of you think that the CBC audience is not a true slice of the demographic pie, that they’ve got more than their share of elitist pinko book readers and university profs. So, let’s go for something a little more “middlebrow”. Can we do better than “Yahoo News”? These folks don’t even write their own news stories; it’s just boilerplate from the Canadian Press wire service. And yet their October 20th story Farmer prosecuted for raw milk says he will not stop” garnered 258 comments. But before we get to those, here’s a little excerpt from the story itself:

“By Clint Thomas, The Canadian Press

NEWMARKET, Ont. – An organic dairy farmer from southern Ontario vowed Monday to continue the illegal sale of raw milk, just minutes after being found guilty of contempt of court for ignoring an order to cease selling the product.

“Yes, we will continue with what we’re doing,” Michael Schmidt said following the ruling, as he and several supporters made a show of chugging back glasses of milk in front of the courthouse in Newmarket, Ont. It was unclear whether or not the milk was raw or pasteurized. Continue reading

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344 readers comment on raw milk at CBCnews.ca

CBC TV crew on location at the Newmarket courthouse Monday Oct 20

CBC TV crew on location at the Newmarket courthouse Monday Oct 20

In case you were wondering what “the people” think about the whole raw milk issue and Michael Schmidt’s role in it, you could do worse than working your way through the 344 comments posted over the last day or so on the cbcnews.ca website. I’m not going to pretend to have read and evaluated all 344 comments to choose the very best to excerpt here, so I’m depending on cbc reader recommendations to winnow them down. Beyond that I’ve selected for “humourous”, “well written”, “revealing” and “probably true”. This is not intended as a representative sampling. and yes, some commenters did oppose the idea of raw milk drinking, typically either because they thought it would increase health care costs or undermine the supply management system. So here are a few selected comments out of the total, which by now is 345: Continue reading

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And furthermore – four more in favour!

Further to yesterday review of comments to Jane Jenkin’s virulently anti-raw-milk piece on GlobeandMail.com, four more thoughtful comments were posted, all of them in favour. That makes it 23 to 10 in favour of raw milk, just counting the number of comments pro and con. Not to mention that the pro comments seem more based in personal experience than hearsay. Anyway, here are more excerpts from that lively discussion:

Pierre living in China from Brampton, Canada:When I was a kid, in the 1950’s and 60’s, my parents bought raw milk from a farmer who was distributing it from door to door. We used to spend the summer at my uncle’s farm where we had raw milk every single day. My 2 sisters, 2 brothers and myself NEVER had any health problems because of raw milk. It is true that it tastes much better.”

Alice Jongerden from Chilliwack, BC, Canada: After a year and a half of operating a herd share, and thousands of gallons of milk going to the cow owners,,, not one report of this sickness’ everyone talks about… However, I have received many reports from sharemembers of the benefits of consuming their raw milk. The cows we care for are tested for TB, Brucellosis, Q Fever, and cell counts. It is true that not all raw milk is safe to drink. However, healthy cows, produce healthy milk, and proper handling is a key factor. It is also true that more people have become ill from pasturized milk than unpasturized in the last decade. When pasturization took effect, it was to correct an even bigger problem. Unhealthy cows, eating brewery swill , slopping around in their manure, and not being cared for properly. The raw milk was not the issue, but the state of the cow and the handling .. It is far easier to trust a food source knowing first hand where it comes from, and how it is handled. Why not become educated on the facts of raw milk? There are many great sites to assist you….” Continue reading

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What are people saying about raw milk?

Responses in the comment section of yesterday’s GlobeandMail.com story on raw milk “A Time Before Pasterurization” give an interesting cross section of public opinion on raw milk issues. In spite of the fact that the author’s position was virulently opposed to raw milk, public comments favourable to raw milk choice outweighed those from nay-sayers 19 to 10. I’d call that overwhelming support for the idea of legal access to raw milk for those who choose to consume it. And that’s from a pretty random cross section of readers too. After all the Globe and Mail is not a periodical that would specifically attract an audience into alternative health culture.

Just for fun, let’s have a look at what people are saying about raw milk. We’ll start with those opposed to the concept:

“Growing up in the 50’s we would visit our cousin’s farms in different parts of the province. At both farms it was clear that raw milk was not to be eaten. No discussion. Seems my relatives had come to know the benefits of pasteurization early on.”

“Thank you, Jane Jenkins, for the reminder of why we pasteurize milk. I’m always amazed that people take our public health policies for granted. We have them for a reason and they should be defended vigorously.” Continue reading

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